tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8259433565415179843.post6076786600926966642..comments2023-12-07T03:49:56.360-05:00Comments on On Two Wheels ... and more: I’m conflictedCanajunhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17529505799866207528noreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8259433565415179843.post-32255119230055282522015-01-18T18:53:54.471-05:002015-01-18T18:53:54.471-05:00I don't know the story but if was going at a m...I don't know the story but if was going at a much higher speed he was probably approaching/gaining on the truck and possibly saw the truck moving aside as to let him pass. It was an unfortunate accident, blame is on him and her, both were doing wrong. Humans tend to do stupid stuff at the wrong time.GFhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08254196892811043203noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8259433565415179843.post-7069010608786169992014-12-21T11:33:50.062-05:002014-12-21T11:33:50.062-05:00Coop - That's very true. We play the odds ever...Coop - That's very true. We play the odds every time we go out, and most times they work in our favour, but when they don't...Canajunhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17529505799866207528noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8259433565415179843.post-67557996022741508672014-12-21T10:21:06.099-05:002014-12-21T10:21:06.099-05:00These "almosts" are around us every day ...These "almosts" are around us every day and so very often, we all "get away with it" with no more than a head shake or a story to tell around the dinner table. This time the things that could go wrong did.<br /><br />Be aware, anticipate....hopefully most of the time we'll get by compensating for the mistakes of others.Coop a.k.a. Coopdwayhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00914017974356686409noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8259433565415179843.post-26502137652514882082014-12-20T19:27:06.581-05:002014-12-20T19:27:06.581-05:00Richard - I suppose it's the media's desir...Richard - I suppose it's the media's desire for sensationalism but the original stories that came out about this case omitted a lot of the mitigating factors that only came out during the trial. Just shows what can happen when we rush to judgement.Canajunhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17529505799866207528noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8259433565415179843.post-21101987976647423822014-12-20T19:25:04.879-05:002014-12-20T19:25:04.879-05:00Dar - Thanks for your comments. I agree that's...Dar - Thanks for your comments. I agree that's the difference in this case, the lack of any sort of wanton disregard for the law - she did something stupid, but not intentionally criminal. That's why I think the judge got the balance right this time. And if she's an otherwise normal human being she will bear the scars of this for the rest of her life. But as for your 1-day-sentence lady - different story altogether. Canajunhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17529505799866207528noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8259433565415179843.post-29886948925023989742014-12-20T18:51:12.729-05:002014-12-20T18:51:12.729-05:00We have been discussing this in my motorcycle comm...We have been discussing this in my motorcycle community and there are definitely mixed thoughts on this. I believe she should be punished, but think on the whole the community service would have been appropriate and the lengthy jail sentence is overkill, it's a year and a half of weekends. I am saddened at the loss of the motorcyclist & passenger, but the rider bears a great responsibility for their ultimate outcome because they were speeding & following to close to the camper which in reality means they were not practicing safe riding habits which resulted in a lack of reaction time. If the girl's car had broken down & she couldn't have limped it to the shoulder it would have been stuck in that lane anyway & the rider still would not have had time to react. I also think that she bears the scars & demons of the aftermath, some people when they go through stuff suffer PTSD and it can render them what we think of as emotionless, because it was so horrible her subconscious may not let her express it. I think in this regard there is more to her emotional state than we realize. Can you imagine living with the burden of two dead because she felt compassion & fear for the safety of a duck family, which if you take that into account shows she has a conscience, albeit bad decision making. As for the 10 year ban, it makes me wonder if her prior driving record was bad & if that weighed in on the judges decision. <br /><br />We had a case here where a woman who was high on cocaine and booze killed a motorcyclist, had a driving prohibition, probation breaches and was not supposed to use drugs as part of her sentence and numerous driving offences and yet she only got a 1 day jail sentence, refused rehab treatment & was only there because it was court mandated. Was that 1 day sentence justice - nope! So I think there needs to be a better balance in the justice system. I have no sympathy for this woman, but the one who was saving ducks, I do because it wasn't a wanton act of disregard of the law, but a bad case of judgement. <br /><br />I think there is more than one person to blame for the outcome here, just my thoughts on the matter. Dar https://www.blogger.com/profile/14690180541358767168noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8259433565415179843.post-64417356291496062932014-12-20T13:39:09.805-05:002014-12-20T13:39:09.805-05:00I agree with you and most of the comments, pretty ...I agree with you and most of the comments, pretty dumb thing to do but there's plenty of blame for everyone...RichardMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04773834892715980735noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8259433565415179843.post-16132854569294229662014-12-20T12:52:31.106-05:002014-12-20T12:52:31.106-05:00Charlie - Sadly true.
Charlie - Sadly true.<br />Canajunhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17529505799866207528noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8259433565415179843.post-23063022096856313692014-12-20T09:46:41.960-05:002014-12-20T09:46:41.960-05:00Plenty of blame to go around.Plenty of blame to go around.redlegsrideshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10927757855921321097noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8259433565415179843.post-17982672439833677342014-12-20T08:28:29.750-05:002014-12-20T08:28:29.750-05:00Gary - You're right. The apparent lack of remo...Gary - You're right. The apparent lack of remorse or any acceptance of her responsibility for what happened is troubling.Canajunhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17529505799866207528noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8259433565415179843.post-82812938724915587382014-12-20T08:26:04.135-05:002014-12-20T08:26:04.135-05:00Steve - Clearly no intent, and clearly she did som...Steve - Clearly no intent, and clearly she did something she shouldn't have. I suppose if it had been a semi instead of a motorcycle that hit her car we could claim poetic justice, but sadly it wasn't.Canajunhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17529505799866207528noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8259433565415179843.post-58543456893621035152014-12-20T08:24:56.121-05:002014-12-20T08:24:56.121-05:00AZHD - Lots of fault to go around, but still a tra...AZHD - Lots of fault to go around, but still a tragedy for all involved.Canajunhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17529505799866207528noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8259433565415179843.post-53943117587221074182014-12-20T07:43:17.972-05:002014-12-20T07:43:17.972-05:00If the woman stopped like that for a legitimate re...If the woman stopped like that for a legitimate reason other than trying to save ducks, and the same thing had happened, we would never have put any blame on her. In this instance, the motorcyclist, if driving in the manner as reported, bears primary responsibility for this tragedy. The motorcyclist, as with any driver of any vehicle, should have had control of his vehicle such that he could safely stop for any reasonable traffic impediments ahead. The woman should have had enough common sense not to stop as she did. The fact that she apparently displayed no remorse is disturbing as well.Gary Pickeringhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12234679126222535031noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8259433565415179843.post-46537795092491504732014-12-20T03:34:48.692-05:002014-12-20T03:34:48.692-05:00Agree with Arizona HD. As for lethal injection, yo...Agree with Arizona HD. As for lethal injection, you have to look at intent. The woman didn't intend to kill anyone (if anything, tried to save the lives of ducks). In cases like these, I don't like to focus on the motorcyclist, even if they were speeding, because none of it would have mattered had the woman not stopped in the middle of the road.Steve Johnsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07254867681706917705noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8259433565415179843.post-74302907067586189582014-12-19T23:41:06.361-05:002014-12-19T23:41:06.361-05:00Is it stupid to stop on a roadway, to save ducks? ...Is it stupid to stop on a roadway, to save ducks? Yep! Is is stupid to ride 30-45% faster than the posted limit in traffic? Yep. <br /><br />The young woman didn't murder anyone, the bike rider killed himself and his passenger. It was an accident caused by a mutual lack of judgement. Happens regularly and the insurance company will cut the payment to the riders family based on his/her percent of fault found. <br /><br />Nobody wins here, rider and passenger are dead, young woman has to live with that fact for the rest of her life. Sad, sad story.Learning to Golfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03184277358166730368noreply@blogger.com